Friday, January 05, 2007

Kevin and Britney agree to temporary custody

TMZ has learned that Britney Spears and Kevin Federline have mutually agreed to a custody arrangement during the month of January.

Under the terms of the stipulated agreement, just filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Britney and Kevin will have joint legal custody of their two children, one-year-old Sean Preston and four-month-old Jayden James. Spears custody agreement Britney will have the lion's share of physical custody. Kevin's physical custody is extremely limited. He will be allowed to be with the children from noon to 4:00 on Monday, Wednesday and Friday at Spears' residence. Under the agreement, Spears can be present, but no one may interfere with Federline's right to be with the children.

Also under the terms of the stipulation, Federline is allowing Spears to take the children to Miami for a week, starting today through the 11th.

No agreement has been reached on custody matters after January.

In her petition for divorce filed in November, Spears asked for sole physical and legal custody of the couple's two children. Federline responded one day later asking for the same thing.

Federline is represented by attorney Mark Vincent Kaplan. Spears is represented by Laura Wasser.

Source: tmz.com

Both parties agreed that the only people allowed at the visitation will be Spears, Federline, a nanny, Spears's personal assistant and household staff.

Meanwhile, Spears is permitted to take the children to Miami from Jan. 5 to 11. She has agreed to keep Federline apprised of her location while in the city.

Source: people.com

Webmaster's note: Looks like a step in the right direction. I assume the reason Kevin is still visiting the kids at Britney's home only is because pictures of Jayden have not yet been released. In the future I'd like to see the kids spending time at both houses so they can hang out with Kori and Kaleb and their relatives on Kevin's side. Other than that it looks good, I'm very happy to hear about joint legal custody, even if this is only a temporary arrangement for January. And, since we're on this topic, Britney posted a new letter on her website today:

Dear Fans,

It has been a while since I've addressed you personally here on my official website. The last couple of years have been quite a ride for me, the media has criticized my every move and printed a skewed perception of who I really am as a human being. Behind every decision I have made in my public life there always seems to be an apparent contradiction. I have come to terms with that which is why I usually don't pay much attention to it.

The last couple of years have been very enlightening for me and now that I've had the time to be "me", I've been able to sit down and think about where I want to go with myself as an entertainer with absolutely no strings attached. I am now more mature and feel like I am finally "free". I've been working so hard on this new album and I can't wait for you all to hear it and to go on tour again! I would like to exclusively tell you that I am working hard to release the new album sometime later this year, but the date is of course not certain yet. I look forward to coming back this year bigger and better than ever, and to also reaching out to my fans on a more personal level. I noticed today that one of my biggest fansites is shutting down soon and I want you all to know that I do understand all the reasons that went behind making that decision, and I am sad to see it closing. If I were you I'd be unhappy too if I had to read what I've been reading every day. But trust me, I get it. I know I've been far from perfect and the media has had a lot of fun exaggerating my every move, but I want you all to know that I love my fans so much, and I appreciate everything you have done for me, so Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!

Love,
Britney

Source: britneyspears.com

Webmaster's note: I have to say I like this letter much better than her last one. Last time I suspected Larry was behind the letter, but I'm going to give Britney the benefit of the doubt on this one because it sounds more like her to me, and also TMZ reported that there were initially typos which seems more like Britney. It's nice to hear a more positive spin on the last two years of her life, unlike her last letter. It's seems that she's calmed down and is now reflecting on what happened, which is a good thing. On a side note, it will be interesting to see what kind of arrangements are made with the kids while she's on tour, but I'm feeling more optimistic that they'll be able to work something reasonable out. Who knows, maybe they'll even become friends over time, that would be very nice to see.

While Larry's spin on the divorce posted yesterday really rubbed me the wrong way, this letter does not. I still don't like the way the divorce has been handled so far, but today is the first day that I think things are looking up. A nice way to start the year. I wish Britney luck on her album, I'm looking forward to it.

70 comments:

Anonymous said...

Eh, that custody arrangement is only for one month so I seriously doubt he will ever be taking the kids away from Britney's house. I wonder how extremely limited his physical custody is. 4 hours a day 3 days a week really isn't that much time imo....

Anonymous said...

i just say what i think about kevin fuck you i really hate you how can you be so mean at britney.you can not se BRITNEY IS BETTER THAN YOU AND SE ROCK THE WORLD BETTER THAN KEVIN.AND YOU ARE SO FUCKING UGLY AND I DONT ANDERSTAND WHY SHE MERRID YOU AND I FINK she sold taking the kids away from you .....i hate you .your music sucks so bad so i can not think soooooo baadddd youuu raaappp its not sounds goooddd.Britney is my idol i just wanna be just she she she .YOU SUCKS SO BAD .I HOPE YOU GET IN PRISON . I NERVER LOVED YOU YOUR MOTHER FUCKER.

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

He better be able to take the kids out of Britney's house at some point. I'm sure it's not just Kevin who wants to see them, I'm sure their grandparents, uncles, and aunts do too, not to mention their sister and brother.

Anonymous said...

At some point yes, but not now. You have to think of the security issues for one thing. But if this is any indication I think this is how the custody will be while they are babies. Maybe in a few years they can revisit it and give him more rights to take the kids for the weekend or something.

Kevin wasn't that interested in Sean and his other gets getting along before, so maybe he still doesn't care. Well, he probably cares since it looks better.

Anonymous said...

^ That's just a misconception from the media. He seems to be very committed to his family from interviews I've seen.

Anonymous said...

Both parties agreed that the only people allowed at the visitation will be Spears, Federline, a nanny, Spears's personal assistant and household staff.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20007075,00.html

No other Federlines allowed.

Anonymous said...

That's just a misconception from the media. He seems to be very committed to his family from interviews I've seen.

Well I believe it's 50/50. He loves his kids, but he isn't someone who lives for his kids.

Anonymous said...

No one can complain and say that it seems unfair to Kevin, as HE is the one that AGREED to the arrangement. And in most cases, if the arrangement seems viable and works for both parents in the time stipulated (this ends at the end of the month), then it is usually the one that is extended. As most parents don't agree to an initial custody arrangement unless it is terms they find acceptable in the long run.

He does seem very limited as to what he can/cannot do which blows his "she's incapable" stories out of the water as he only gets 12 hours a week and cannot essentially be alone with them (it says that Spears and those stipulated can be present at any time).

Alison said...

He never said "she's incapable". Some tabloid claimed it but he never did.

This seems okay for now, but I don't think it would be right to deny SP and JJ access to their extended family on their father's side long-term, especially their brother and sister.

Anonymous said...

iHe does seem very limited as to what he can/cannot do which blows his "she's incapable" stories out of the water as he only gets 12 hours a week and cannot essentially be alone with them (it says that Spears and those stipulated can be present at any time).

That is what I'm thinking. Kevin agreed and most likely got money to do so. Since he agreed with this and agreed to let Brit take the kids out of state for a week...him saying she is an unfit mother is totally bogus. Larry is up to something good I'm sure. I think this is how the custody will end up being.

Anonymous said...

He never said "she's incapable". Some tabloid claimed it but he never did.

His lawyer implied she was incapable and YOU posted it.

http://teamkevin.blogspot.com/2006/11/kevins-custody-bid-after-binge.html

And sources say he is “even more determined” to win full custody after pop star Britney, 25, went on boozy benders with Paris Hilton — flashing her private parts in skimpy outfits.

A spokesman for Mr Kaplan said: “While Britney has been out with Paris, Kevin has been thinking about the best interests of his children.”



Also considering Shar has said she wants to do with SP and JJ and Kevin has never taken the kids out alone most likely and he's working and doesn't get to see his other kids, I doubt those siblings have ever really met much.

Alison said...

Kaplan's spokesman is not Kevin and he's not saying Britney is incapable.

Kevin has taken Kori and Kaleb out alone before, and Kevin has talked about how great it was when Kori and Kaleb came over in an interview before the divorce.

Alison said...

From Kevin's USA Today interview a week before Britney filed for divorce:

The two Spears/Federline tots get along great, he says. "Preston is starting to take on the big brother role, and he's getting very protective." Preston "wants to be around the baby all the time." Federline's two children with actress Shar Jackson (Kori, 4, and Kaleb, 2) are regular visitors to their home, says Federline. "Preston gets real excited when Kori and Kaleb come over." But it's clear that the "little one" is the apple of Federline's eye. That baby "picks up things a lot quicker than the others, because he has the benefit of learning from the older kids."

Anonymous said...

No offense, but when Kevin gave that interview Jayden was like one and a half months. Babies really can't do that much at that age.

Anonymous said...

I believe he just acceptedted this agreement because he want to see his kids so he will do anything to spent time with them.I donot believe this is the way it will be.I am grateful that it is only for a month.His kids has the right to see their other grandoarents ,aunt too not just her family.Hopefully when the court rules he will get to take them at his home.

Anonymous said...

According to Britney's camp Kevin only saw JJ four times at the time of the divorce. I know you like Kevin and all, but I can't believe you are so cynical against Britney and believe all the spin that Kevin feeds you.

He's take Kori and Kaleb out alone, but most likely never SP and never JJ. A lot of this has to do with security I'm sure. I'm sure after things settle down he will get to take them to his house, but I think physcial custody will be with Britney.

Alison said...

Does it take a more cynical person to believe someone, or to not believe them? I believe if anyone is cynical it's you, or maybe just having a hard time giving up some of your ideas, for choosing not believe everything Kevin has said about his kids.

Britney supported Kevin's career. She even made an appearance on his CD. Kevin said they were going to hit the road together once Jayden was born. Instead, Britney chose not to be with Kevin and gave him the reason that it was because she hadn't released Jaydens pictures yet. Then when he was in Toronto she filed for divorce. This is not Kevin's fault.

Anonymous said...

And it is Britney's fault? I seriously doubt eithet is 100% to blame for their marriage failing, and the person initating the divorce isn't always the devil.

Anyways I am glad they have work things out. The children deserve to see both their parents.

Alison said...

I don't think Britney is the devil and I don't think she is responsible for every problem in the marriage. I just think she handled the divorce really badly, and I question some of her motives for filing when she did.

Many seem to want to put Kevin in the devil role and I don't think that's right either.

What's done is done. If they can find a way to work this out in a way that's good for the kids I'll be happy.

Anonymous said...

I find it really odd that someone who is in Toronto, is able to file a counter-petition less than 24 hours after their significant other filed divorce especially if they had no clue it was coming. Kevin would have had to look for a divorce attorney and decide exactly what he wants from the dissolution of the marriage probably in less than 18 hours time since most lawyer's offices are closed sometime during the day. He was too well prepared for someone who had no clue what was going on.

When has Kevin or Britney ever said that the reason Britney wasn't going on tour was because pictures of Jayden haven't been released?

Alison said...

Kevin talked about Britney joining him on tour, for example in his September GQ - "After she gets skinny, we're gonna hit'em with this shit."

The delay because of Jayden's pictures Kevin talked about in his USA Today interview at the end of October:

Spears will decide when the couple's 7-week-old will make a public appearance. Federline says he wants to release a photo soon so his family can join him on the road without dodging the paparazzi. "But if my wife wants to have that baby all to herself for now, then she keeps it, because there's not much she has to herself," he says, "not even her own children."

As for why Kevin had a lawyer right away, my best guess is an anonymous comment received on this blog:

he didnt know the divorce was going to happen that soon, although he'd been threatened with divroce a few times, they were seperated for a few weeks before but he still thought they would work it out

however britney is not the person who texted him about the divorce on Muchmusic

the point being that Britney never did contact him about the divorce papers being filed
she let him find out from his friends who saw it on tv and internet

Anonymous said...

That is just about releasing photos, not about her joining the tour. Anyway how good is it for the children if they are in a new city everyday.

Even if she was threatening divorce, then that indicates huge problems. We know he wasn't around because he was touring and promoting so their communication was probably crappy.

Alison said...

You're saying that Britney didn't tell Kevin she was filing for divorce because "communication was crappy"? What kind of excuse is that. Even if she couldn't immediately get a hold of him, filing for divorce is one of those things that can wait a few days. But I doubt even that would have been necessary if Britney had really wanted to talk to Kevin.

And my quote definitely does connect the fact that Kevin's family was unable to join him with the release of Jayden's pictures.

It's not surprising that the relationship had its rocky moments. If you watch Chaotic it was happening even there. In fact the first day Kevin joined her on tour she told him to leave. But they always worked it out, so it's not surprising Kevin thought they would work it out again.

Anonymous said...

Kevin talked about Britney joining him on tour, for example in his September GQ - "After she gets skinny, we're gonna hit'em with this shit."

Oh my. I just can't for the life of me imagine divorcing such a dream boat.

Anonymous said...

Kevin was spinning away. They obviously had lots of problems and he was just basically lying saying it was all good. Honestly I would wait for them BOTH to speak out about what happened and not believe rumors and not believe anon posts on the internet. If they were separated for weeks before the divorce and Kevin "thought" they would get back together - well, that's just his tough luck! I'm sure he thought he could get back in her good graces, but obviously there were problems there to start with and she was done. I do not think it was suddenly she had to get her career back either. She has done nothing but screw up her career chances at this point.

Alison said...

Anyway how good is it for the children if they are in a new city everyday.

Just remember that when Britney goes on tour.

Kevin may not have been a dreamboat for just anyone, but he was Britney's dreamboat.

Anonymous said...

So Alison where has either one said that Britney told him via text messaging or didn't tell him prior to filing since apparently I never read this info.

Taking Sean on tour would be different than taking Jayden at the time. Jayden was less than 2 month old.

Alison said...

I actually agree that stability is good for children at any age, 2 months, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, 15 years... That's why I'm glad at least a January arrangement has been made for the kids, although it hasn't stopped Britney from taking them on a trip to Miami.

So far neither Kevin or Britney have made a public statement about the divorce. You can choose not to believe the commenter on this blog if you want.

Anonymous said...


Kevin may not have been a dreamboat for just anyone, but he was Britney's dreamboat.


was is the important word here.

Anonymous said...

let's be serious people?? have any of ya'll ever heard britney talk like that...she wishes she wrote that letter and frankly i dont belive it's her, another PR plot

Anonymous said...

Looking at the situation, obviously he knew there were HUGE issues that needed to be worked on within their marriage. Alison, you even posted what one of his so-called "friends" has said...for as much as its worth as no one can varify it. But, plainly obvious was the fact that Kevin and Britney were having issues for the majority of 2006. Now, in my experience, if your marriage is in trouble and your family is on the line...you move heaven and hell to make it work...that is if you want it to.

The fact that he claims he didn't know it was coming is such pr garbage b/c agian, he knew his marriage was in trouble, and according to numerous sources, she said she was going to divorce him s few times. If you are blindsided, you don't have an attorney, much less an already drafted petition, prepared. Don't care what anybody thinks...but logically, if he thought it was nothing or that they were going to work it out...he wouldn't have been so prepared. That shows intent...meaning he had at least an inkling.

On to the custody....it doesn't look good for him that he essentially gave her sole full custody. In sole custody cases, one parent retains custody (physical and legal) while the other parent has limited priviliges and visitation....sounds like their situation to me. And yes, he can still have joint LEGAL custody while she maintains full b/c all legal custody means is that he has a say in the major decisions regarding the children. If he claims (and thus, believes he can prove) that she is in any way unfit or unable to care for the children...while at the same time he AGREED to this arrangement (regardless that it in temporary b/c it can be extended as is...or with changes) pokes holes in his "I'm just so concerned about the wellfare of my kids" claims. One does not essentially hand their children over (b/c the boys will be spending only 12 hours/week with him and then that is in the company of Spears and her employees) to someone that is "unstable."

As far as stability goes, at that age, the children like the same surroundings, but can quickly adapt so long as something that they reconize is present. Children are more concerned about feeling safe and connected whereever they are, which is why I hope that Kevin keeps all of his dates b/c he was on the road and off doing things for the majority of JJ's time after birth. There are pics of him in Vegas something like a week after...not good. So I highly doubt JJ is truly, deeply emotionally bonded with his father yet, so maybe this will change that.

Kevin agreed to let Britney (along with the boys b/c she always seems to have them) go record in Miami. It's not like she didn't ask him...It's doubtful that she is trying to "keep the kids away" from him. But I'm glad that they are at least attempting to set up some sort of routine for the boys sake...which is all the really should matter in the end.

Anonymous said...

^^ Actually, if you watch some of her interviews prior to her "break" she does talk like that...she probably had help with it, but it is written and sounds like her circa 2000-2003ish

Alison said...

For the record, neither have claimed anything since the divorce. We're basically going on interviews from before Britney filed and some comments on this blog. So don't accuse him of "pr garbage", it hasn't happened, he just gave some nice interviews before Britney filed because he wanted and thought they'd work things out.

I've already said why I think Kevin's visits are happening at Britney's house for the month of January. If you want to read into that that Kevin is some horrible parent I can't stop you. To me the main thing is that they have joint legal custody so they have to agree on the major decisions and Britney can't run off and do whatever she wants with the boys without talking to Kevin.

Anonymous said...

^Kevin's laywer and those working for his lawyer have made plenty of statements and comments. It has been posted here many times. Don't start of the "represenative said it not the lawyer"...The represenstive WORKS for the firm and can be FIRED for making un-approved statements to anyone! Not PR garbage? That is why they hold a freaking press line when he goes out to dinner and such! Releasing statements regarding what he is wearing?! How the hell does anyone not call that PR crap?

"he wanted to work it out"...and you say this because of interviews...why didn't he try to then? He was pretty damn prepared and in fact, already had the response documents and then the petetion filled out. Unless you know it is coming or are prepping to do so yourself, you don't have those documents ready to be signed and faxed.

I've never said he was a bad parent...I think when he is there he appears to really enjoy his children...it's just that all of those comments, induendo, and suggestions that his wife is a poor mother was all crap as he left his children with her.

Regardless of why he has to be at her house for visitation...if she was unfit or unable to properly care for those children...He SHOULDN'T have AGREED to the arrangement. That was the point! I do think it is a security issue as to why he isn't allowed to take the children out...cause the photogs in LA are vicious.But regardless, if he thought for one second the boys are better of with him full time, he shouldn't have signed the decree.

However, I do not believe that she has ever "tried to keep the kids away" or that he never "knew where his children are"...as from the get go, when the first one was born, they have consistantly been where their mother was. Even before the divorce, when both were in seperate hotels in NY...the boys were with her. So explain to me, why all of the sudden...post-divorce, she would suddenly be somewhere without her children. From every report since the birth of SP...the boys/nanny/bodygaurds have been seen with Britney, traveling and in the hotel rooms...so that would change why? He knew where his children were and besides, she can't go anywhere where she isn't seen and it isn't reported by someone. While I think he has every right to see/talk with them even when he isn't with them, playing the "she's keeping the boys hidden" crap is just that crap.

Alison said...

Kevin's lawyer's spokeman has released some odd statements about what Kevin is wearing, etc. - I don't know why. I don't even know why his lawyer has a spokesman. He did say right after Kevin filed that he didn't know where the kids were. How do you know it wasn't true? You don't know where the kids were either. I would sure feel better if Britney was legally obligated to include Kevin in these types of decisions. And with joint legal custody she is.

I don't know why Kevin was in Vegas that time, I do know that he was under contract for his touring gigs and I'm glad he chose to honor them even when his life was turned upside down. I'm sure they worked things out many times between them, but this time Britney never gave him a chance so how can you possibly blame Kevin for that?

Anonymous said...

Alison,

The person can say that he/she knew the kids were with their mother because there were numerous reports stating so. Your telling me that Kevin or someone in his crew didn't watch out for reports about Britney? I don't think so! There was even a report from USA Today talking with people that were not affiliated with Spears, but who did her hair/makeup in her hotelroom...with the boys present.

Yes, he was under contract, but 1/4 of the way thru, if he chose he could have gotten out of it with little skin off of his back b/c the tickets weren't selling. Promotors are never happy when they aren't selling. It was reduced to selling the tickets for a few dollars and giving them away. I'm 99.8% sure that if he wanted to go work on his family life, the promotors would have given him the green light. Regardless, if someone wants their family sitation to work out...you do whatever it takes, contractally obligated or not...if you truly want and your family means everything to you, you take drastic measures to ensure that you do everything possible to make it work...which typically means going to see them and working on it, which he didn't do.

How do you know Kevin asked for a chance? It didn't appear that it was skin of his back that she filed. Why is it her fault?

Anonymous said...

^
So you're glad he chose to honor his work commitments instead of trying to make his family work?

Alison said...

Come on! You really think Kevin should have to read the tabloids to find out where his kids are? Now there's a reliable source. You are really stretching it.

We saw Kevin when he received the news by text message, apparently from a friend of his and not Britney. But you've made up your mind it was no skin off his back. I don't know how you can possibly think that, but nothing I say is going to convince you otherwise.

Britney made it clear that it was HER that didn't want her family to work. SHE filed for divorce.

Anonymous said...

Your kidding me right? USA Today is not a tabliod and most of the major magazines and entertainment shows picked up on it also. Plus, why all of the sudden would he assume that the children weren't with their mother if from the time they were born, she traveled with them? Not such a big unlogical jump to safely say that where she was, the chances that the boys were there too were pretty damn good. Plus, she remained in NY for a bit, where everyone from the news, to shows, to magazines, to tabliods reported that the boys were seen by people at the hotel she was saying at? Your telling me that Kevin and everyone remotely close/related to him failed to watch/hear/ see anything...Give me a break!

No reliable source ever comfirmed that the footage shown was in fact, him finding out she filed for divorce.

She didn't want her family to work? Right, that is why she essentially gave up everything to have a family and sit back while he did his thing. It takes TWO people to make any relationship work and if either party doesn't make an effort (which it's obvious by his actions neither made the effort towards the end) then it fails. So she filed for divorce...Less than 12 hours later, which unless the documents were signed, sealed, and dealed already...he filed right back. They are both at fault for not wanting their relationship to work, but don't sit and say that he wanted and was trying and base it on interviews...when he obviously didn't go to where she was and try to work it out!!

Alison said...

All I can say is Britney is the one who should have talked to Kevin in person before filing the divorce papers, and Britney is the one who should have made sure Kevin knew where his kids were. That's not USA Today or anyone else's job, it's Britney's. Bonus points for not only talking to Kevin but making sure he and the kids could see each other.

And now, because they have an arrangement for January that includes joint legal custody, she will get in trouble if she ever doesn't keep Kevin informed. He also has the legal right to see them on a regular basis. It's progress.

We're going in circles, there's nothing else I can really say.

Anonymous said...

And Kevin is trying to suck Britney dry of her money. Apparently he still thinks he is worth her millions.

What the hell ever! I am all about him having his kids, but homeboy really is being greedy there.

Anonymous said...

To play devil's advocate- How are any of us so certain that she didn't tell Kevin she was filing for divorce anytime prior to when she actually did it? He had some previous knowledge for sure. So how can we say she didn't tell him and she didn't let him know where his kids were, just because someone says? I agree with the above poster Alison, it does seem kind of odd that all of the sudden he would think to believe his children were with their mother, especially since that is where they had been since the begining. And he could have just as easily called her up to ask if he could see/have the kids for the day. It works both ways! If she in anyway hindered him, he could have gone above her which he didn't do. What does that say about him then?

Technically, she only has tell him she is going out of state...she doesn't have to report to him. The only reason she has to let him know she and therefore, the boys are leaving is because it now interfers, or potentially interfers with his slotted time with his children. If she were to leave the state on Friday night and return on Sunday...technically, b/c it doesn't intefer with the schedule she doesn't have to let him know. I hope she does b/c it is polite and nice to let the father of your children know where they are, but legally she is not obligated unless it interfers with the set forth times. The only state that requires the mother or gardian to inform the father before taking the child out of state is Texas.

And he's always had the legal right to see his children, even before this decree. If she was preventing that, he could have done something about it as he is their father and does have the same legal rights as she does.

Anonymous said...

^he wouldn't think to believe his children were with their mother if that is where they have been since the begining.

Anonymous said...

First thing I would recommend is not believing everything you read. I don't know why you still are on the rumor that you SAW Kevin get the divorce news. Even if you did, you have no idea why he was upset. He could have been upset she beat him filing.

The bottom line is he knew it was coming. He just didn't know when. So for him to go on and sing the praises of their wonderful marriage was him trying to get some good press.

Yes, he should have dropped EVERYTHING if he wanted his marriage to work. There is no excuse for him to be in Vegas a week after JJ is born for so many reasons.

The fact is Britney didn't have to stay married to Kevin. Even if everything was perfect and Kevin was the best husband in the world - it's her choice. Just like he could have left if he decided to. You can't blame Britney for wanting to be happy and she wasn't happy with Kevin, that much is obvious. Sometime people are just better apart.

Alison said...

I am not impressed with the way Britney filed for divorce. I don't think it was necessary to appear on Letterman or get her old manager involved. I do not think she made an effort to work out arrangments for the kids or keep things civil with Kevin before she filed. I do think the timing, right before we got the numbers on the first week's sales of his CD, really sucked.

I don't find it hard to believe she made it difficult or impossible for Kevin to contact her right after she filed. I think it's likely he tried and was not able to. It's not like he could just call her at home, she never went back to live there.

I am not impressed that she filed for sole legal custody. To me it's an indication that she didn't feel she needed to think about Kevin's rights when she filed. I don't think Kevin felt he could trust her after that and with good reason.

I do think that this temporary arrangement is a step in the right direction.

That about sums up what I think. If you don't then we can agree to disagree.

Anonymous said...

Alison:

Youe entitled to your opinions, but who is to say that how you believe things went down is really how it occurred?

Britney has a cell phone no? So regardless of whether she went back to her house or not is moot. Or, her bodyguards have cell phones...I'm pretty sure Kevin would have everyone's number.

Her timing did seem to blow hard! But what was she supposed to do if she really wanted out? Wait until it was a convinent time for Kevin? Who does that?

If reports are true that he rarely saw the boys (and you must admit he even said so in interviews b/c the past year he was working on his album and promo) then maybe she felt she had the right...as he wasn't there before...what makes anyone think it would be any different? I'm not saying it is true, but, if it is...then she was basically a single parent before she filed.

How can he not trust her? He from all indications was more focused on his career and doing things of that nature! I don't know about you, but someone who is father to 2 small boys does not go off to Vegas within days of ones birth. Nor does said father seemingly put their career before the children...as he was seen out and about, at the studio, flying here and there, to do. You take a stand and say "I'll do this and this...but I need x-days/time for my kids." He said in some interview that after being in the studio all day, he just went home and crashed....doesn't seem like he left much time for his children.

Alison said...

More circles. We've already talked about this.

Anonymous said...

^ Obviously, if people are still asking you about it, it hasn't been talked about clearly enough.

I think what they are asking is that isn't there a probability that how you see things as having occured is skewd? No one knows anything for certain as none of us are Kevin or Britney. But given what has been said about their entire relationship and their behavior during the entire time, isn't it possible that those previous people have valid points?

Anonymous said...

I think she filed sole custody for various reasons. For one SHE is the main care giver. If Kevin had only seen JJ 4 times since he was born when she filed for divorce, I could see why she would do it to show him that he is not a father. Just because he donated some sperm doesn't make him a father. I do think he should have legal rights if he proves himself to be worthy of those rights. That will come into play hopefully soon. I do not think Britney would have filed for sole custody if she did not have just reason. Britney needed Larry to help her along with what is going on. You can't fault her for finding help is a man she has known for years and who she trusts.

Also for the record, from the documents it was Kevin who wants only Britney and her people during visitation. Britney has not agreed to it yet.

Alison said...

I don't mind talking about this, in fact I like hashing it out and trying to figure out what happened. I just feel like I've stated my opinion, and why I feel that way, and there's only so many ways to say it.

To me the arrangement for January means they are on their way to working out a long term plan that involves both of them being part of the their sons lives and both of them being part of all major decisions. I don't see any indication that it means either one of them is a bad parent.

I also don't think Kevin's a bad parent because I've read his interviews and he has consistently talked about how much his family means to him. You can even hear it on his CD. Shar has corroborated what Kevin has said about Kori and Kaleb being a regular part of Kevin's life, and she's said he was a great parent before and after the divorce. Britney said lots of nice things about Kevin as well.

I think there's lots of people who have this idea that Kevin is this horrible person who didn't care about his family and they read everything that happens with that bias and they use it to excuse Britney's behaviour.

I've written a couple of other posts about this, if you haven't already, you can read this which I posted on November 25:

http://teamkevin.blogspot.com/2006/11/who-are-kevin-and-britney-and-what.html

Anonymous said...

I just don't understand why people think Britney should have considered Kevin's feelings when she filed for divorce. Yeah it happened when his CD sales were about to be released, but really so what? Would it have been different if he sold 300K and she still filed? Would she be less of a bitch in some's eyes?

Divorce is divorce. It means she doesn't want to be married to the man anymore and therefore probably could careless about his feelings. Harsh? Sure. But she doesn't have to care. All she has to care about is those boys.

Kevin is thier father and has the right to see them. If he wanted to see them he would have. I do not buy that she was hiding the boys from them and intentionally keeping them from him.

When my friend and his girlfriend (mind you, not even married) had a nasty break up, she tried to take their daughter away from him and trust me he moved heaven and earth to keep her froming leaving. All it took was a lawyer and a threat to sue. As the father he has every right to be with his kids. I sorry if I am cynical of the accusations. Kevin has a lot more money and pull than the average joe and all I saw was a countersuit for sole custudy, spousal support, and Britney paying all his legal fees. Mmkay.


Kevin was out promoting/touring in venues what were giving tickets away. You can not seriously not questions why he wasn't at home when things were obviously bad? I keep hearing people go on and on about Britney not wanting to make the marriage work and not caring, but what about Kevin? It takes two to tangele people. I didn't see him putting up much of a fight either. Maybe it was the fact he knew the married was dead and just wanted to be away. Kevin himself has said that he just has to go away or whatever when they agrue. Too recollect or whatever. Maybe that is what he was doing.

At least this temporary joint custody agreement is a step in the right direction. It is a bit sad that the boys won't be able to see their siblings, but I get this odd feeling that they probably won't be seeing much of each other in the near future anyways. :/ But at least they are being civil and that is a much needed start. Especially for Britney because she is a hot mess. I don't know what is going on when her but something is. Oh well. Her career died a long time ago anyways, not that she was famous for her talent anyways, but I digress.

But you know what, like Alison said, this really is just talking in circles because people are going to think what they want and their thoughts aren't going to be changed. I personally think Britney and Kevin are tools and trainwrecks I love to watch (moreso Britney), but at the same time nothing is black and white.

Britney and Kevin were in that (happpy/miserable?) marriage for two years and now it is over. It is just sad that two innocent children have to suffer because their parents can't be adults without the presense of lawayers in the room.

Whatever works. And seriously, why in the hell would Federline request that only Britney and her assistants be in the room (if they must be present). Britney? I can understand that. Her assisants? Bitch please. I barely would let Britney in on my limited time.

Their whole marriage is like on big PR Stunt.

Anonymous said...

Whatever works. And seriously, why in the hell would Federline request that only Britney and her assistants be in the room (if they must be present). Britney? I can understand that. Her assisants? Bitch please. I barely would let Britney in on my limited time.

Well, obviously Kevin probably realizes the babies are bonded to THEIR MOTHER and maybe he wants them there? It's her house and he can't force her out of it. I don't know why it's like that. Go read the documents. It wasn't my idea. It's just what is written.

Anonymous said...

For those who don't believe it was Kevin who wants only Britney's people there during this visits :

http://www.aolcdn.com/
tmz_documents/010506_brit_kfed_custody.pdf

it says

or go to tmz.com and see the documents. page 3

Respondent (Kevin) has requested the petitioner (Britney) specifically agree that the persons to be at home during the respondent's (Kevin) custodial time be limited to the petitioner (Britney), the children's nanny's, petitioner's assistant and other regular household staff. No agreement has been reached by the parties in this regard.

Anonymous said...

^that also means people like her mother, sister, brother and family could not be there when Kevin is... I can see why she wouldn't agree. There is no reason they should have to leave the house every day while he's there as long as they don't bother his time with the boys.

Alison said...

I just don't understand why people think Britney should have considered Kevin's feelings when she filed for divorce.

Now there's a basic human question. Let's look beyond the feeling when the most important person in your life who you've pledged to love and charish forever and built your whole life around not only breaks that promise but does it in the most hurtful way possible.

Let's think about the kids. Divorced or not, Kevin and Britney are forever responsible for raising two sons. And how well they get along will have a huge affect on their lives and self-esteem. For the sake of those boys, why would she want to get things off to such a bad start? And it's not even just two boys we're talking about. We also have Kori and Kaleb caught up in this, and even Kori and Kaleb's older siblings Donnie and Cassie. It's not just Kevin's feeling Britney was inconsiderate of, there's a whole family of people on both sides that she was inconsiderate to.

For the Britney fans, just imagine the situation with the roles reversed. Let's say at the height of the media crucifixion of Britney about Crossroads, Kevin went on Letterman all smiles, chatting with a lovely actress. Then filed for divorce with sole custody the next day while he had the two boys with him - no notice, just let Britney find out from the media. Then made sure to get lot more pictures of him taken showing how great he was doing.

Britney is allowed to file for divorce. She just didn't have to be so nasty about it.

But.. as I've said before I'm hopeful that they are at a stage where they are starting to move past that.

Alison said...

Thanks for pointing out that it is Kevin that is requesting that limited people are allowed to be there. He's probably afraid Britney's family will come in and interfere with his time.

Anonymous said...

Now there's a basic human question. Let's look beyond the feeling when the most important person in your life who you've pledged to love and charish forever and built your whole life around not only breaks that promise but does it in the most hurtful way possible.

Obviously Kevin broke a promise or two for the divorce to happen in the first place. Vows are good and all, but they don't mean squat if you don't respect your spouse. Yes, Britney had an obligation to honor her marriage, but so did Kevin.

People do hurtful things when they are hurt themselves. They lash out. Why do you think Kevin filed like he did and had his lawyer's spokesman say harmful things? I don't doubt Kevin still has to have feelings for Britney, but he's still doing thing that hurt her. Both could have made a statement a long time ago how they will remain committed to raise the children, but neither did.

As for you other example, you still don't know what happened but are assuming what happened and assuming Kevin had no idea. That theory has since been proven false.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for pointing out that it is Kevin that is requesting that limited people are allowed to be there. He's probably afraid Britney's family will come in and interfere with his time.

Britney lives in a huge house, there is no reason they have to be gone and there is no reason to believe they would try to stop him from seeing the kids. I thought they all loved Kevin?

Alison said...

I didn't say they would stop Kevin from seeing the kids, just interfere. I'm sure he wants some quality time with them during the limited time he gets to be with them. It's nice that he's not requesting Britney leave too.

Alison said...

Here are the exact words:

In consideration of the Respondent's (Kevin) agreement to Petitioner's (Britney) request that he visit with the children at the Petitioner's home, Petitioner shall use her best efforts to ensure that no third party visiting the house interferes with Respondent's custodial time with the children. Respondent has requested that Petitioner specifically agree that the persons to be at the home during Respondent's custodial times shall be limited to Petitioner, the children's nanny, Petitioner's assistant and other regular household staff. No agreement has been reached by the parties in this regard.

Come on Britney! You can at least give him that since he's been nice enough to allow the visits at your house for January.

Anonymous said...

Jesus Fucking Christ, you find any reason to bash her don't you? She obviously might have reasons of her own. Like not wanting to kick her family out of the house for 12 hours a week. You should know the security issues sounding the kids as well! Not to even mention JJ's picture has not been released.

Anonymous said...

Also "allowing"? Britney has sole physcial custody of the kids. He gets them 12 hours out of a week of 182 hours.

Anonymous said...

Well Britney shouldn't have to tip toe around everything that involves Kevin because it might upset the Federlines. It doesn't work like that.

It happened at a sucky career time for Kevin. Such is life. This isn't even about Britney and Kevin, but in general. When the average person goes to divorce someone they are not like "Gee, I better ask for the divorce next week because this week isn't good for them." Come on!

Britney filing is enough to upset them, not matter how she did it. The media would have still thrown parties and had declarations of the divorce. Kori, Kaleb, Donnie and Cassie will survive. They survived Kevin leaving their family for Britney didn't they? Shar is there mother and she is handling it I am sure.

As for the visitation time. I think Kevin knew better than to ask Britney to not be present especially when they are in her home. As for the other people? They really have no need to be there and I don't blame Kevin for setting some limits in regards to his time. He has every right.

I also doubt Britney or Kevin would care all that much if other family members were around the house (ie. JL, Lynne, Kori, Kaleb, etc) as long as the other wasn't objecting and they weren't interfering.

Anonymous said...

Even though I didn't like the whole custody arrangement when I first read the papers I have to say that now I feel more positive as to where the whole custody thing seem to be going, I hope in the near future a more permament joint-custody agreement can be reach with more physical freedom for Kevin with the kids at his home with his family and their older Brother and sister.

By-the-way, Britney can take the kids to Miami or anywhere for that matter as long as Kevin agree to it, and she stick to the agreement to let him know where she's going, and where she's staying with the boys, her number and a number for the nanny, Kevin is only trying to cover himself after what she did right after filing for divorce, taking the kids and not letting him know where they were.

If you ask me this whole custody thing only complicate things, she should have left the courts out of it and come to an agreemnet with him like what he has with Shar for Kori and Kaleb, no courts, no third party, just a mutual agreement.

I think Britney needs to start taking responsible and start thinking for herself, I'm sure if she did her whole action after the filing would have been different, but she let Larry step in and it seem to me took away her choice of decision.

As for the matter of that letter to her 'fans' I will not comment, I will leave all that to her fans.

Kelly.

Anonymous said...

Well it is a different situation than his with Shar. They weren't marriage therefore that could deal with things without lawyers. Sure Britney and Kevin could have quitely worked things out, but I get the feeling that anger took over for them both and they did what they did on pure emotions. Now that things have calmed down, they are able to be rational.

Anonymous said...

The only difference with him and Shar is that they weren't married, if Shar wanted to file for sole custody she could have, my father did and he got it and he and my mother weren't married either.

I agree that they can sit and work things out and come to some kind of agreement, but that can only happen if they're adult enough and britney can tell Larry to step back and she take control over her PERSONAL life.

I hope for the interest of the kids they can work things out as quickly and smoothly as possible.

Kelly.

Anonymous said...

The courts haven't appeared to have anything to do with this arrangement as they didn't go to family court to discuss it yet...unless I missed something.

This was an arrangement drafted by Britney and her attornies and agreed to by Kevin and his attorney. The only thing the court did was have a judge sign the decree...as it wasn't an "Order of Custody"- which is when the courts decide. The judge signed off on the agreement and it was filed into court records.

Anonymous said...

http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=244va9.jpg sean p wants her mommylook what he escape from kevins arms.